Harmony India DAO

Hello @frwrdslosh @lij
We are aware about Regional Dao guidelines however, we wanted to go for community DAO reason being there is no officialHarmony India community and given the opportunity we can actually build up a good community here.

We knew from starting that if we have to cover wider communities, then Regional DAO wouldn’t be the best option for us. We have not included meet-ups, hackathon in our proposal given the covid scenario in India and we are not sure how long this will last. Lockdown is implemented across India and covid situation is deteriorating.

But if it’s necessary in this term , I will adding now

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As per @frwrdslosh suggestion, I am adding :
:black_small_square:$10k for host 2 meetups for 50 people each
:black_small_square:$10k for partnering with a regional hackathon of 100 developers.
:black_small_square: $10k for sourcing 5 approved grantees from that language or region.

This three points I will add on my community DAO Proposal

For Now We Request the Funding for Translation ($10,000.00 + $1000.00 Safety Net), Twitter ($10,000.00 + $1000.00 Safety Net), One Month Work ($8690.00) → $30690.00.
Total - $30690.00

After we getting the funds, we will create the governor’s worktime sheet and will request for weekly payment according to each governor’s time/week.

After we getting the funds next 3 months election term date will count from this funding date.

Multisig Address:
ONE : one1xscasnvfpnfuvl4dpmgl4n7ustrj3nem3nsgfp
ETH : 0x3431d84d890Cd3C67eAd0ed1FACfDc82c728cf3B

@lij

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Yes, of course adhere to the country’s Covid guidelines.

If Harmony India DAO Govs can agree to make these community meetups and regional hackathon virtual, I believe we can consider the DAO proposal approved.

  • $10k for host 2 meetups for 50 people each
  • $10k for partnering with a regional hackathon of 100 developers.
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Yes ofcourse , thanks for understanding our concern. :slightly_smiling_face:

@lij i think everything is good now and @frwrdslosh understand us and we agree on this.

Just waiting for funds, which we requested earlier.

Thank you :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hi,

While it is lovely to hear the formation of a Harmony India DAO, I have to confess that a small subset of people representing a 1.38 Billion population is not logical.

To give more essence to the problem, India has 29 states equivalent to the size of 29 different countries.
According to the latest census data, India speaks & writes in about 121 languages with more than 10,000 dialects.
If we look at the list of languages by the number of native speakers in Wikipedia, out of the top 20 languages globally, 7 languages are from India.

Language - Speakers
Hindi - 341 Mn,
Bengali - 300 Mn,
Punjabi - 92.7 Mn,
Marathi - 83.1 Mn,
Telugu - 82 Mn,
Tamil - 75 Mn,
Urdu - 68.6 Mn .

In this case, how can a community with only less diversity represent a larger population?

The proposal looks like one group of people and their friends in its current form. I highly doubt if other people, I mean the people other than their friends & people from different regions, will get a fair opportunity & get to be a part of this DAO.

These are my observations after reviewing the profiles of the governors & the team consists of people only from 5 states & an expatriate.

  1. Priyank Gupta - Rajasthan, Language - Hindi, English(As per LinkedIn)
  2. Vaibhav Kumar - Bihar(As per LinkedIn)
  3. Tayyab - Who is currently in Dubai, UAE(As per LinkedIn)
  4. Amar Deep - Bihar(As per LinkedIn)
  5. Manini Jaiswal - Bihar(As per LinkedIn)
  6. Vitruvius - Delhi - Language - Hindi, English(As per portfolio website)
  7. Shoaib Malik - Delhi, Language - Hindi, Urdu, English(As per LinkedIn)
  8. Raghav Deopura - Rajasthan(As per LinkedIn)
  9. Ajay Kumar - Himachal Pradesh(As per LinkedIn)

So the only solution I see for this problem is to create separate regional DAOs.
For example, West Bengal DAO comprising of people only from the West Bengal state, Telangana DAO comprising of people only from Telangana state, etc this can be verified via KYC as well.
The India DAO can encourage setting up multiple regional DAOs of people from different states & equally distribute the funds to each regional DAOs. This will also help in organizing more meetups & events locally & also have more content produced in different languages understood by that particular region.

The DAO in its current form cannot and will never ideally represent entire India.

But by creating regional DAOs, we are also getting closer to achieving decentralization while giving a fair opportunity to everyone.

I believe I have presented some valid points backing up with data, so it would be great to figure out a solution together and help the people of India create wealth in Harmony.

It would also be great if you could present more details about the elections.

Thank you.

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Clear roadmap for a 2 year growth, broken down quarterly. This proposal looks like a long-term work partnership with high commitment.

Willing to join your group, send me the group link :slightly_smiling_face:

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A well-thought-out, yet concise proposal. Looks like the team has put in their elbow-grease to make it work… Best of luck for your proposal.

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Hello Dinesh, I see the points put up by you but in my opinion they are only valid to an extent.

I understand that India is a country with a huge population and speaks a lot of languages, but to break down the DAO into several small DAOs doesn’t seem logical. We will end up having 29 DAOs for 29 different states which makes absolute no sense in my opinion, not initially at least or even for the top languages you mentioned since at least Urdu and Hindi when spoken are similar and Punjabi is very similar to Hindi as well. Moreover, more people do know and speak Hindi even if it’s not their mother tongue. For eg. Mine is Haryanvi and that’s what I end up using mostly at home and at work even though the people I speak to know Hindi as well.

I believe if we make so many sections out of a DAO, the fund and work management would be very poor and it would lead to more unnecessary workforce as well. Imagine 29*9 Governors in the initial stage of a Regional Country DAO. It just doesn’t sound practical at all.

I do understand the point you are trying to make but to make fragments out of this DAO so early won’t be fruitful to anyone. I think this could be considered once the Indian DAO actually does something and succeed at making a solid community around. Plus, it’s a DAO after all! You know the community can always vote on things and new ideas.

In all, my point is that when we do not have any base for India as a whole as of now, how can we think of fragmenting it to every state?

Also, if you feel like there’s one or multiple regions that have massive potential, you can submit proposals for the same and assemble the team accordingly). I’d love to work for a Haryanvi DAO for sure! Another way to go about this is you or someone else could translate or create content in those regional languages.

In the end remember my friend, it’s a DAO after all! The governors are merely temporary and for initial stages. It’s the community that runs the show :wink: we all can work in this and bring a change. We can do what we want, there are no bosses or managers.

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Hello Dinesh,

I commend the effort you put down to write your observation which are totally in contrast to reality as you are missing a very important point here that almost 70 percent of India is a multilingual with Hindi and Even English as its official language though it is not native to india in the first place.

Moreover Almost all the Professional Courses like Engineering, Medicine, Law as well as Administrative Subjects are taught at many places in mostly in English and in Hindi as well.

Further this is not the apt way to present India on a global platform as you are undermining the sovereignty of India and trying to divide by creating a wedge on linguistic lines.

Dont forget that even after all our short - comings we are the largest functional democracy in the world.

Democracy can never flourish without proper communication in the first place.

source- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilingualism_in_India

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Hey,

Happy to see your thoughts @Kingler while it can be challenging to manage multiple DAOs, that’s the whole point & the beauty of building a truly decentralized community. I hate to break it down to you; not everyone from India knows Hindi as it is only one of the 22 officially scheduled languages in the constitution.
And I would like to highlight that this proposed DAO lacks one of the significant regional mandates for DAO: Diversity.

While I understand that it’s a DAO after all, but it won’t make any sense if the DAO is vague and undiluted, consisting of only a tight-knit community from specific regions. These early birds will only become a part of the DAO, get all the opportunities, & become governors eventually.
So it’s essential to solve this problem at the roots by having more representation and diversity. It will also be easier to achieve all the deliverables & work collaboratively if the community has more diverse people.

While you said anyone could create a DAO easily; the Harmony community funds are not perpetual. Where do you think they will be redirected to if a new entrant proposes to create a regional DAO, for instance, the Haryanvi region or West Bengal region? They will be asked to collaborate with the India DAO only(I have observed that this is the case of many DAOs in the forum when they would like to create a DAO for their region). But it’s already too late, and there’s no way that the people will be able to participate fairly & they would lose interest and give up.

I meant no offense, but I am highlighting a significant problem in the DAO structure. In this current structure, the early bird gets to take it all. The late comer doesn’t have an opportunity or will be denied any opportunity as they will try to help only their friends or people who took part early. Who would like to be a part of a non-inclusive community after all?

A beautiful example is this very own thread where I see new accounts being created & engaging in this thread. Well, I could bring my friends or even create multiple new accounts and have people support my points. Steps like these might misrepresent the Harmony community into thinking that the entire Indian community supports the entire proposal. But that’s far from reality.

@Banarasi I would like to thank you for making my job more effortless in the same Wikipedia article you have shared, you can see the percentage of people who can understand English in India which is only 10.6%. So be mindful of what you are commenting as I am just trying to represent the facts & actual data & not trying to create a wedge by using linguistics.

Yes, you are correct, and it’s essential to have proper communication with multiple languages & different sets of people to represent one of the largest functioning democracy.

And companies like Google, Facebook, and other FinTech players like Paytm, PhonePe understand this correctly and provide multiple language options to use on their platforms as they understand the importance of diversity. And you also forgot that all those courses you mentioned like Engineering, Medicine, Law, etc. are also available in the regional languages.

So in order for the larger population to adopt the blockchain & Harmony it is vital to communicate & have representation from different regions & languages to help in the daily race to onboard 10 Mn users and help them in creating wealth using Harmony.

So I ideally envision the Harmony India DAO to represent the Indian community with diversity, and I feel like only regional DAOs can currently solve this problem unless you guys have a better idea?

And there’s still no response from Priyank Gupta & team about the elections as well.
What is the plan after 3 months?

So could you please apprise me about the fact why did the Indian state choose English as an official Language if so there are only 10 percent of the people know about the language.

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Did they started to offer Multilingual Support from the very beginning of their service. Technology takes time to evolve. I would rather suggest you to be much more optimistic than you are currently with the HARMONY INDIA DAO.

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Hello Dinesh,

We also think that to combine a regional DAO potential it will become a marketing funnel for Harmony india, harmony and ecosystem projects with importance of implementing mandates. I will be very happy that you(regional dao) come forward with your proposal with 9 governors and post it in Funding Section. The India Community Dao will support you guys and hopefully harmony too.

Regarding Elections we already mention in our proposal.
After we getting the funds next 3 months election term date will count from this funding date.

Next 3 month plan will present after we completed the 3 months terms.

Thank you.

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In terms of representation if want to include each and everyone then i might add on, the hindi i use and the hindi my friend from 50km away from my home uses are different.
If i may quote “कोस-कोस पर पानी बदले, चार कोस पर वाणी”
Somehow one has to start or this plan of expanding Harmony community to India will only be a plan.
Well i have been in NEAR and well as AVALANCHE INDIA community.
People from various states and regions are able to get in and get information and knowledge. Hindi bengali punjabi telgu and tamil speaking atleast in those community.
But yes atleast they had taken a decision to start somehow.
Either one can start somewhere or just discussions will go on.
And for the part involving new accounts, i see your account too created recently after the proposal was made👀. Mine is an old one still😅 and i see this proposal a good one if it promises to achieve the goals listed.

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Blockchain is new for most of the people, every step matters, in india most of the people are not digitally literate,i support Indian dao ,let it grow first regional dao will flourish later as more adoption of blockchain happens

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Hello @CryptOdin , You can Join our official harmony india DAO Group : Telegram: Contact @harmonyindia

Thanks :pray:

Hello @Abhijeet , You can Join our official harmony india DAO Group : Telegram: Contact @harmonyindia

Thanks

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Hey,
@Priyank_Gupta Thank you for understanding my concerns.
Can you tell me how much funds are allocated for the regional DAOs?

@Devil_Jin , thanks for mentioning NEAR you have made my job easier. After some research, I have found that NEAR supports regional community as well all over the world. I would suggest you look up. I am sure some of the proposed governors and other members are already in NEAR to verify.

And in AVALANCHE(Refer the picture below taken from Community | Avalanche), Twitter: https://twitter.com/Avalanche_In the Indian community. The cover picture and the tweets everything is in Hindi. To be honest, I don’t understand anything.
Sadly this is the case of almost all the Indian communities which is created for blockchain projects.

Eventually, people assume India speaks Hindi, and everyone knows Hindi & the entire Indian community is developed in Hindi filled only with people who understand & interact in Hindi. But in reality it’s only half of the Indian population.

I am not sure if other community members or even people from India who speak Hindi can understand the difficulty or grasp this situation.

It’s like being in a group where everyone speaks a foreign language but doesn’t understand any of it.

So I would request everyone to think from my perspective, as thousands of dollars are allocated to build a solid Indian community for the entire country.

And regarding the accounts being created, everyone knows what I am referring. I joined recently and raised my concerns, but someone out of nowhere started arguing, which is crazy & far from reality.

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We are Really Happy that we Completed ONE Week.

Here’s the timesheet of Harmony India DAO created

  • In our sheet we calculated $[ x ]/hour as $75/hour.

@lij @frwrdslosh @HarmonyUniverse

INCREDIBLE is the word the @harmonyindiadao team would choose to describe their experience in the first week. The dynamic team has come together as a very tightly-knit unit that takes pride in constructively criticizing and complementing each other’s work in order to reach the desired high quality end results.

:blue_heart:With the team in place, we took to the establishment of a Twitter handle that has reached a healthy 170 followers in the 1st week.

:blue_heart:17 tweets were posted this week with an average of 2 to 3 tweets per day that. The tweets were accompanied with extremely relevant and eye-catching graphics that have garnered the right attention. Approximately 29,700 impressions over a 7 day period stand as a testament to the effort in the right direction. This gives us the distinct impression that we are on the correct path to contribute effectively towards Harmony’s growth in the region.

:blue_heart:The Team decided to up the ante of engagement by holding an AMA with the Twitter community and got a terrific response with 333 participants, of which the 5 top questions were chosen with the consensus of the team. A reward pool of USD200 worth of $ONE was split amongst the winners.

This talks of the dedication put in by the governing team who is motivated with the inital results and further intends to bring in more innovative ideas of engaging with the community and propagating the influence of Harmony amongst the Indian Crypto community.

The Harmony India DAO Team organised the 1st Telegram Community Call @t.me/harmonyindia which presently has 76 members and, at its highest, more than 20 members joined the call.
The engagement level was extremely high and the Growth hacker Member Vaibhav, in his unique brand of education and information, answered the questions of the participants to their satisfaction. Attached is a screenshot showing the responses of community members to the community call. We are also pleased that we have had international Harmonauts joining us in the group as well, we aim to grow the reach in India and beyond.

On the operational side of it, the team has created its reporting and time-keeping requirements. We’ve created two member teams for each aspect of performance in order to ensure business continuity and validation of each other’s work and time-logs. We have also been able to create a Notion workspace that is scheduled to go operational from the 26th of January 2022. To ensure that we are absolutely organized regarding community engagement events and to ensure that the activities of the DAO go on uninterrupted, we have created a first draft of the rewards schedule that would go into implementation after a unanimous approval of DAO Governors.

We are pleased to say that on the occasion of the 73rd Republic Day of India i.e. the 26th of January, we are scheduled to host a meme contest that would bring in the community’s perception of the DAO’s performance in the first week and the expectations of the community for the future. We would invite memers, fondly called meme lords, to show us what they understand of the functioning of Harmony India DAO and it’s role in sharing the word of Harmony while raising awareness regarding it’s blockchain utilization and more.

To maximise outreach and to provide information regarding activities of the Harmony India DAO we have created a Medium channel and published articles introducing the team and announcing the commencement of the first Twitter AMA round.

After the completion of the first week, the team continues to be excited and has various plans of action in place at different fronts like outreach, contest development, rewards programs and more. We would also like to thank Harmony for giving the Harmony India DAO team an opportunity to show what it can do to spread the word of Harmony and act as the catalyst of growth in the Indian sub-continental region.

Let’s explore the boundaries of passion! Go Harmony!

@lij @HarmonyUniverse @frwrdslosh

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